This is suppose to be ten years before the Enterprise, but the technology is 100 years ahead of the Enterprise, and the initial series was a manly man show, William Shatner was the MAN...here we have a black female first officer and an Asian Captain running the ship, that would never ever happen 10 years before Kirk, the Klingons were way overdone, way to much of everything, and I believe that Spock was the first multi racial Vulcan if I remember right, so how can this black female be half human and half Vulcan, and you can't tell what she is, she sure doesn't act like a Vulcan. Anyways, crappy show, won't watch the second episode, I had such high hopes for this. Way over tech, and way to politically correct, I'm surprised we didn't have a gay couple on there.
My opinion is neutral so far, but Star Trek purist will hate this series.
brooke53
The creators are trying to make a new Star Trek series that will appeal to modern audiences but at the expense of continuity. The technology and appearance of the ship is far more advanced than any of the series were. The ship is slick and shiny like a luxury cruise liner.
I get that they wanted to make the Klingons really intimidating and monstrous but this is set ten years before the original series in which Klingons had smooth foreheads. The change in appearance was glossed over in the DS9 crossover episode and explained in a story arc in Star Trek Enterprise. Some people hated that storyline and wished they did not explain it, saying that fans should accept that the restricted budget for TOS did not allow for fancy Klingon prosthetics and costumes. I thought those Enterprise episodes were brilliant and now they've been cancelled out by this new series. Very annoying!
The only way I can enjoy watching this is to pretend all the other series never even happened, as little is recognizable as being Star Trek save a few familiar sound effects. Some thought Enterprise ruined Star Trek, attacking Berman and Braga. I think many more will hate this series. Some will love it for being completely different.
However, it's unfair to judge a whole series on the pilot episode. It started to get interesting in the last ten minutes and ended in a way that will make some want to know what happens next. It may be fine as a stand-alone series and perhaps as it unfolds it will start to feel like it fits in with the Star Trek franchise.
As for Sonequa Martin-Green, her dialogue seems a little wooden (and not even Vulcan wooden) as though she's reading it off a teleprompter. Voyager's Kate Mulgrew had a terse mannerism that was distracting that I eventually got used to so I supposed I'll get used to this too. I'll have a long wait though and only if the series is released on DVD/Blu-ray. The show can't be watched by people on low incomes as you have to be able to afford high-speed Internet service (I have stepped wireless to keep my bill as low as possible) and the monthly fee for the streaming service, or the cost of full-tier cable in Canada to get the Space channel, which is airing it.
Sigh...you did it wrong...again
Deakon75
Just my opinion, You can't say this is in the same universe as Enterprise, ToS, etc... if you are going to re-write the history of said universe, and expect the millions of existing fans to just sit here and take it.
What I haven't understood, since Enterprise; is with all of our CGI, filming and other technological advancements, that can make a fantastic Sci-Fi show of any sort...Why go and make a prequel, that just makes everything that was supposed to have taken place years after this show, look horrible and confusing in the progressive universe? Make a sequel! Not another Enterprise. But, something that takes place 50, 100 or 500 years after these events, so that the CGI and awesome things that take place in the ST universe make sense. You need to come up with some original and creative stories. Stop re-hashing the past, and modified an already written history to fit your unoriginal story telling.
My thought in the first 2 episodes...That's all I am going to watch, you butchered everything that we have already absorbed and accepted as cannon. There is nothing you can do with this show now to redeem it. Expect maybe preemptively cancel it, listen to the fans of old and new, then go back to the idea room, and come up with something that fits properly in the Star Trek Universe. Or Just leave Star Trek alone, and make the show you wanted to, but were to scared to make because it was so weak, you threw the Star Trek name on it, and used some words Trekkies are familiar with to try to suck us in.
Again, just my thoughts after watching.
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karloblert
I remember watching the first TOS episodes as a young boy. I loved them, just because I loved every movie or TV series with star ships in it. Later when I was a teen TNG came out and it was the first time I got aware of that Star Trek series are not just random episodes of sci-fi fun but an own universe with own physics rules, different alien races and complex interstellar political issues. With DS9 they deepened the understanding of that universe and all it's rules and made it step by step even more complex and interesting.
And oh boy there was a lot to learn about that universe. There was the religion like believe of the Klingons in their greatest warrior Kahless, The Vulcan society which was completely based on logic, There were ship classes for every species with detailed specifications of their technology and a complete history of the human race to the stars starting with the invention of the warp drive by Zefram Cochrane. Each alien race had their unique design for their whole technology, architecture and cloth which fitted even when the different series were hundreds of years apart.
Sure there were several plot holes which they had to fix and explain in ENT. What they did pretty well. At that point a very delicate web was knitted to fit all the bits and pieces together. A complex universe which was fully explained to play with for future series authors.
So we all looked forward to a great new show in that universe. Would it be about a more modern ship two centuries after the Enterprise D? Maybe a short series about the Star Fleet academy? Could have even been one completely out of the view of Vulcans or Klingons or about the Eugenic Wars. The Star Trek universe is a giant sandbox full of things to play with for an author.
So what did we get then with STD? SJW nonsense, unfitting ship designs, unfitting race looks, unfitting star trek officer behavior, unfitting technology in that time-line. Unfitting control panels, unfitting uniforms - basically if there would not be the word „Klingons" mentioned now and then you would not even be aware that this story plays somehow in the Star Trek universe.
STD trashed 60 years of story development and then puked a big pile of SJW idiocy on it, stirred it up with some standard factory CGI and feed it to the public.
Everyone involved in the making of Star Treck Discovery should be deeply ashamed for failing completely as authors, set designers, producers and directors. There was basically no way to mess it up more then they did.
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brooke53
The creators are trying to make a new Star Trek series that will appeal to modern audiences but at the expense of continuity. The technology and appearance of the ship is far more advanced than any of the series were. The ship is slick and shiny like a luxury cruise liner.
I get that they wanted to make the Klingons really intimidating and monstrous but this is set ten years before the original series in which Klingons had smooth foreheads. The change in appearance was glossed over in the DS9 crossover episode and explained in a story arc in Star Trek Enterprise. Some people hated that storyline and wished they did not explain it, saying that fans should accept that the restricted budget for TOS did not allow for fancy Klingon prosthetics and costumes. I thought those Enterprise episodes were brilliant and now they've been cancelled out by this new series. Very annoying!
The only way I can enjoy watching this is to pretend all the other series never even happened, as little is recognizable as being Star Trek save a few familiar sound effects. Some thought Enterprise ruined Star Trek, attacking Berman and Braga. I think many more will hate this series. Some will love it for being completely different.
However, it's unfair to judge a whole series on the pilot episode. It started to get interesting in the last ten minutes and ended in a way that will make some want to know what happens next. It may be fine as a stand-alone series and perhaps as it unfolds it will start to feel like it fits in with the Star Trek franchise.
As for Sonequa Martin-Green, her dialogue seems a little wooden (and not even Vulcan wooden) as though she's reading it off a teleprompter. Voyager's Kate Mulgrew had a terse mannerism that was distracting that I eventually got used to so I supposed I'll get used to this too. I'll have a long wait though and only if the series is released on DVD/Blu-ray. The show can't be watched by people on low incomes as you have to be able to afford high-speed Internet service (I have stepped wireless to keep my bill as low as possible) and the monthly fee for the streaming service, or the cost of full-tier cable in Canada to get the Space channel, which is airing it.
Sigh...you did it wrong...again
Deakon75
Just my opinion, You can't say this is in the same universe as Enterprise, ToS, etc... if you are going to re-write the history of said universe, and expect the millions of existing fans to just sit here and take it.
What I haven't understood, since Enterprise; is with all of our CGI, filming and other technological advancements, that can make a fantastic Sci-Fi show of any sort...Why go and make a prequel, that just makes everything that was supposed to have taken place years after this show, look horrible and confusing in the progressive universe? Make a sequel! Not another Enterprise. But, something that takes place 50, 100 or 500 years after these events, so that the CGI and awesome things that take place in the ST universe make sense. You need to come up with some original and creative stories. Stop re-hashing the past, and modified an already written history to fit your unoriginal story telling.
My thought in the first 2 episodes...That's all I am going to watch, you butchered everything that we have already absorbed and accepted as cannon. There is nothing you can do with this show now to redeem it. Expect maybe preemptively cancel it, listen to the fans of old and new, then go back to the idea room, and come up with something that fits properly in the Star Trek Universe. Or Just leave Star Trek alone, and make the show you wanted to, but were to scared to make because it was so weak, you threw the Star Trek name on it, and used some words Trekkies are familiar with to try to suck us in.
Again, just my thoughts after watching.
karloblert
I remember watching the first TOS episodes as a young boy. I loved them, just because I loved every movie or TV series with star ships in it. Later when I was a teen TNG came out and it was the first time I got aware of that Star Trek series are not just random episodes of sci-fi fun but an own universe with own physics rules, different alien races and complex interstellar political issues. With DS9 they deepened the understanding of that universe and all it's rules and made it step by step even more complex and interesting.
And oh boy there was a lot to learn about that universe. There was the religion like believe of the Klingons in their greatest warrior Kahless, The Vulcan society which was completely based on logic, There were ship classes for every species with detailed specifications of their technology and a complete history of the human race to the stars starting with the invention of the warp drive by Zefram Cochrane. Each alien race had their unique design for their whole technology, architecture and cloth which fitted even when the different series were hundreds of years apart.
Sure there were several plot holes which they had to fix and explain in ENT. What they did pretty well. At that point a very delicate web was knitted to fit all the bits and pieces together. A complex universe which was fully explained to play with for future series authors.
So we all looked forward to a great new show in that universe. Would it be about a more modern ship two centuries after the Enterprise D? Maybe a short series about the Star Fleet academy? Could have even been one completely out of the view of Vulcans or Klingons or about the Eugenic Wars. The Star Trek universe is a giant sandbox full of things to play with for an author.
So what did we get then with STD? SJW nonsense, unfitting ship designs, unfitting race looks, unfitting star trek officer behavior, unfitting technology in that time-line. Unfitting control panels, unfitting uniforms - basically if there would not be the word „Klingons" mentioned now and then you would not even be aware that this story plays somehow in the Star Trek universe.
STD trashed 60 years of story development and then puked a big pile of SJW idiocy on it, stirred it up with some standard factory CGI and feed it to the public.
Everyone involved in the making of Star Treck Discovery should be deeply ashamed for failing completely as authors, set designers, producers and directors. There was basically no way to mess it up more then they did.
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